Reply to an excuse not to be vegan: 'The inuits can't be vegan?

When discussing veganism, some people start asking 'What about the inuits'?

 

Here are some good responses:

Gary L. Francione: The Abolitionist Approach to Animal Rights Dave Watt: First of all, your assertion is false. The Inuits have a great deal of their food shipped in and have been doing so for some years now. Second, even if your assertion were true, it would, at best, make animal use excusable. It would not make animal use justifiable. Third, even if your assertion were true, itr would be completely irrelevant to the 99.99% of the population that chooses to eat animal foods.

Yesterday at 4:53pm · Like · 3

NZ Vegan May I suggest to Dave and Fjaton that they stop worrying about the Inuit people and start focusing on themselves.

"Everyone thinks of changing the world, but no one thinks of changing himself" - Tolstoy said that.

If YOU care about animals, Dave and Fjaton, and YOU are experiencing some kind of troubled thoughts about what is happening to them, the first step is for YOU to stop doing it to them. If you didn't care then you wouldn't be here asking these questions.

 

Sarah K. Woodcock If I were an Inuit person, I would be offended that a caricature of my ethnicity was constantly being used as an excuse to justify the exploitation and murder of billions of sentient beings per year.

 

Sarah K. Woodcock Fjaton Lukos, did you know Professor Francione just published a book which addresses the sorts of questions you are asking? I highly recommend it:

www.EatLikeYouCareBook.com

Vegan reply to '"So if the killing of animals is wrong why has the 'creator' designed them to kill each other to survive?'

Michael wrote
"So if the killing of animals is wrong why has the 'creator' designed them to kill each other to survive? A wild cat is never going to eat a salad.."

Here is my reply:
I don't know understand your argument.

Why do you think that evolution is a deterministic process controlled by a Creator?
Cats are also killing for pure enjoyment, just like many humans do. Do you think this is morally justified? Do you think that this is a behavior that a Creator put into the cat – to kill other beings for enjoyment?

Some species evolved to become meat eaters because of that they lived in areas with a scarcity of plant based foods, and that their genetic mutations combined with them choosing to kill other sentient beings, increased their survival rate.
That they got genetic adaptations for a certain behavior, doesn't morally justify their behavior.

As I asked,
Do you think that cannibalism is morally justified?
I argue that we are not morally justified to kill either humans, or other animals for our survival. See this blog post that I have written:
http://andersbranderud.thoughts.com/posts/are-humans-morally-justified-to-kill-a-human-or-another-animal-for-survival

Furthermore, as I said before, humans today in our culture are not killing for survival, we are killing for “pleasure” or convenience – for a trivial “taste experience”.
I agree with these quotes by Leo Tolstoy:
“A man can live and be healthy without killing animals for food; therefore, if he eats meat, he participates in taking animal life for the sake of his appetite. And to act so is immoral.”
“Thou shalt not kill” does not apply to murder of one’s own kind only, but to all living beings; and this Commandment was inscribed in the human breast long before it was proclaimed from Sinai.”