Manish Jain,
[I extended my comment some that I wrote in the other thread.. ]
It is sad that they conflict the very basic principle of Jainism. It is objective that consuming animal products is causing Himsa (violence), just like all domestication does. It is impossible to deny that violence is commited against the animals. And according to Jainism human and nonhuman animals are equal, so I don't understand how they can justify enslaving animals and exploiting their reproductive organs without the consent of the cow, let alone the massive killing of 1 million male calves that occurs in India per year because of the milk industry.
Basically their argument is assuming that it is morally right to rely on a long established tradition of eating milk products. They let a long established tradition overrule the very basic principle of Jainism - Ahimsa.
Violence anywhere hurts everyone everywhere. It is impossible to justify violence and at the same time advocate the principle of Ahimsa. Justifying commiting violence against cows for the taste or convenience of milk products, creates such a big 'exception' for Ahimsa, that it justifies any and all violence against any being.
But we all know why the tradition-argument doesn't hold. The lack of understanding is due to the disconnectedness that comes by participating in violence and exclusion towards other sentient beings.
Also this book by Will Tuttle is good in creating the understanding of the necessity of veganism: http://www.worldpeacediet.org/
Maybe it also could help them to understand that the animal slavery has resulted in human slavery, oppression against women, and other forms of oppression that is rampant in our society. This book covers this: http://cup.columbia.edu/book/978-0-231-15188-7/animal-oppression-and-human-violence#.UZAIageHrdk.facebook
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söndag 26 maj 2013
onsdag 15 maj 2013
No joy and love of eating animal products, fear, suffering and enslavement
There can be no true joy and love when eating a meal, which resulted in fear, suffering, enslavement and death for precious and conscious beings.
"Eating is an act of connecting. Even if we eat alone, we are not alone. The food we are eating connects us with the rhythms, forces, and abundance of nature and of our universe, and with the presence of those who nurtured and gathered the foods we are eating. Fields, forests, oceans, rivers, wildlife, farmers, and grocers are all with us and become part of us as we chew and digest the food.
People we think of while we are chewing and digesting our food become a part of us also. Crossculturally, meals are events of social bonding and communion. When we eat together as a family or a community, and especially if we do it in an attitude of appreciation of the food and the opportunity of being together, we strengthen the bonds of understanding and love between us.
If we consume animal foods, all of these elements of energy and consciousness are diminished by the violence and fear inherent in the vibration of the foods we are eating. Thich Nhat Hanh says it plainly:
'When we eat an egg or a chicken, we know that the egg or chicken can also contain a lot of anger. We are eating anger, and therefore we express anger. . . . So be aware. Be careful what you eat. If you eat anger, you will become and express anger. If you eat despair, you will express despair. If you eat frustration, you will express frustration.'
Since there is such an obvious and overwhelmingly strong vibration of violence, fear, and despair in animal foods, when we prepare the food we are not likely to do so mindfully, but mechanically and quickly, in order to avoid awakening our natural sensitivity. We tend to eat these foods in a disconnected way as well. To maintain our pretense that we are oblivious to the obvious horror on our plates, we eat quickly and keep ourselves busy and distracted. Fast food and the industrialization
of eating are understandable outcomes of eating animal foods over an extended period. The aggressive busyness of our culture and our
outward-looking expansionist orientation are rooted historically and currently in our discomfort with how we treat the animals we eat and
the hardness we cultivate toward their suffering."
[Quote World Peace Diet by Will Tuttle; available for free at: http://www.worldpeacediet.org/download.htm ]
"Eating is an act of connecting. Even if we eat alone, we are not alone. The food we are eating connects us with the rhythms, forces, and abundance of nature and of our universe, and with the presence of those who nurtured and gathered the foods we are eating. Fields, forests, oceans, rivers, wildlife, farmers, and grocers are all with us and become part of us as we chew and digest the food.
People we think of while we are chewing and digesting our food become a part of us also. Crossculturally, meals are events of social bonding and communion. When we eat together as a family or a community, and especially if we do it in an attitude of appreciation of the food and the opportunity of being together, we strengthen the bonds of understanding and love between us.
If we consume animal foods, all of these elements of energy and consciousness are diminished by the violence and fear inherent in the vibration of the foods we are eating. Thich Nhat Hanh says it plainly:
'When we eat an egg or a chicken, we know that the egg or chicken can also contain a lot of anger. We are eating anger, and therefore we express anger. . . . So be aware. Be careful what you eat. If you eat anger, you will become and express anger. If you eat despair, you will express despair. If you eat frustration, you will express frustration.'
Since there is such an obvious and overwhelmingly strong vibration of violence, fear, and despair in animal foods, when we prepare the food we are not likely to do so mindfully, but mechanically and quickly, in order to avoid awakening our natural sensitivity. We tend to eat these foods in a disconnected way as well. To maintain our pretense that we are oblivious to the obvious horror on our plates, we eat quickly and keep ourselves busy and distracted. Fast food and the industrialization
of eating are understandable outcomes of eating animal foods over an extended period. The aggressive busyness of our culture and our
outward-looking expansionist orientation are rooted historically and currently in our discomfort with how we treat the animals we eat and
the hardness we cultivate toward their suffering."
[Quote World Peace Diet by Will Tuttle; available for free at: http://www.worldpeacediet.org/download.htm ]
onsdag 10 april 2013
Veganism = Love, compassion and non-violence towards all living beings
Non-vegans
usually do not intend to be mean to animals, they are just heavily
disconnected to the animals. By their actions they become desensitized
and lose their intelligence and connection with animals. It is possible
to demonstrate love and compassion towards non-vegans and at the same
time not compromising veganism = love, compassion and non-violence
toward all living beings. E.g. this former non-vegan who slaughtered
many animals: http://www.farmkind.org/
Persons whom are exploiting animals, e.g. non-vegans whom are exploiting animals by their dietary habits, suffer a lot because of what they eat and because of other ways they exploit animals. It is sad. Instead I hope their consciousness will be awakened -- and to a large extent it will be caused by vegans spreading information.
I love these words by Will Tuttle who have written the wonderful book called World Peace Diet (www.worldpeacediet.org ):
” I will say that I think, again, that the whole concept of good and evil are part of the herding culture's guilt complex and I think for the most part these concepts create a lot more heat than light. In the Buddhist tradition, for example, there is an emphasis on "skillful" versus "unskillful" behavior rather than "good" vs "evil" - in the sense that skillful behavior leads to a reduction in misery for oneself and others, and people who are "evil" are perhaps better seen as unskillful because, make no mistake, we do not have to punish anyone or send anyone anger or curse them; everything boomerangs eventually. In the herding culture that we're born into, though, only the material level is recognized because beings are systematically reduced to objects to be eaten, and we see ourselves the same way - as mere things that are born and will die; this is the greatest illusion. It's like dreaming a dream and thinking in the dream that myself, as the actor in the dream, is the true "I" - we see when we awaken that the dreaming I and its world is set within a context that it can't see but we can. Our entire culture is in a trance. The nontheistic religions seem to grasp this better than the theistic ones for some reason, as a general rule. There's a wonderful teaching from the Taoist tradition for example, but it's difficult to understand without meditation. There's a man on a lake, lying down in a boat, enjoying the beautiful sky and clouds as he looks up. Suddenly he is jolted hard as another boat rams into him! He's furious. Who could be so stupid and/or malicious to aggressively slam into him so! Jumping up, he is ready to righteously express his anger, but instead he starts laughing - the boat is empty. It was just drifting, propelled by wind and currents. This has been an enormous help for me. In many ways, it's all empty boats. The wounds people receive, even just being born in this society and ripped from one's mother and slapped around and vaccinated, already shuts people down at a deep level, and it goes from there, with the competitive and damaging education and other institutions. Having compassion for wounded people who hurt themselves and others and don't know better, driven by winds and currents they don't understand and are not aware of. As vegans, we are on a path of awakening, and though it's painful to become aware in this society, we have a lot to be grateful for and to give thanks for. I have found it's important for me to also make a discipline of sitting in silence for at least an hour a day, just listening attentively, beyond the chatter of the mind. And also to take time every day to consciously see beauty and to appreciate it and give thanks for it... and to give thanks for the precious opportunity of a human life to grow and awaken from the ignorance of believing that what I am is an object that is essentially separate. As long as any being is under this delusion of separateness, he or she will act in ways that appear "evil" - out of fear and desensitization and trying to keep away, and trying to get, and always, even if wealthy and powerful, profoundly ill-at-ease underneath it all... The vegan revolution is a revolution of love and awakening from the cultural trance-- all aspects of it.”
Persons whom are exploiting animals, e.g. non-vegans whom are exploiting animals by their dietary habits, suffer a lot because of what they eat and because of other ways they exploit animals. It is sad. Instead I hope their consciousness will be awakened -- and to a large extent it will be caused by vegans spreading information.
I love these words by Will Tuttle who have written the wonderful book called World Peace Diet (www.worldpeacediet.org ):
” I will say that I think, again, that the whole concept of good and evil are part of the herding culture's guilt complex and I think for the most part these concepts create a lot more heat than light. In the Buddhist tradition, for example, there is an emphasis on "skillful" versus "unskillful" behavior rather than "good" vs "evil" - in the sense that skillful behavior leads to a reduction in misery for oneself and others, and people who are "evil" are perhaps better seen as unskillful because, make no mistake, we do not have to punish anyone or send anyone anger or curse them; everything boomerangs eventually. In the herding culture that we're born into, though, only the material level is recognized because beings are systematically reduced to objects to be eaten, and we see ourselves the same way - as mere things that are born and will die; this is the greatest illusion. It's like dreaming a dream and thinking in the dream that myself, as the actor in the dream, is the true "I" - we see when we awaken that the dreaming I and its world is set within a context that it can't see but we can. Our entire culture is in a trance. The nontheistic religions seem to grasp this better than the theistic ones for some reason, as a general rule. There's a wonderful teaching from the Taoist tradition for example, but it's difficult to understand without meditation. There's a man on a lake, lying down in a boat, enjoying the beautiful sky and clouds as he looks up. Suddenly he is jolted hard as another boat rams into him! He's furious. Who could be so stupid and/or malicious to aggressively slam into him so! Jumping up, he is ready to righteously express his anger, but instead he starts laughing - the boat is empty. It was just drifting, propelled by wind and currents. This has been an enormous help for me. In many ways, it's all empty boats. The wounds people receive, even just being born in this society and ripped from one's mother and slapped around and vaccinated, already shuts people down at a deep level, and it goes from there, with the competitive and damaging education and other institutions. Having compassion for wounded people who hurt themselves and others and don't know better, driven by winds and currents they don't understand and are not aware of. As vegans, we are on a path of awakening, and though it's painful to become aware in this society, we have a lot to be grateful for and to give thanks for. I have found it's important for me to also make a discipline of sitting in silence for at least an hour a day, just listening attentively, beyond the chatter of the mind. And also to take time every day to consciously see beauty and to appreciate it and give thanks for it... and to give thanks for the precious opportunity of a human life to grow and awaken from the ignorance of believing that what I am is an object that is essentially separate. As long as any being is under this delusion of separateness, he or she will act in ways that appear "evil" - out of fear and desensitization and trying to keep away, and trying to get, and always, even if wealthy and powerful, profoundly ill-at-ease underneath it all... The vegan revolution is a revolution of love and awakening from the cultural trance-- all aspects of it.”
fredag 29 mars 2013
Animal foods disconnect us from our natural compassion and wisdom, and sense of being part of a benevolent universe.
Nicely written by Will Tuttle:
It is irresponsible to condone eating meat, dairy, and eggs. While I agree that sunshine and the dirt are beneficial, eating foods sourced from animals is not only toxic for us physically, it is even more toxic for us emotionally, spiritually, culturally, and ecologically - and these are all important aspects of our health.
If I buy animal flesh or secretions, I have to pay people to do the terrible work of stabbing, imprisoning, mutilating, and raping animals, work that brings out the worst in them. I am supporting toxic agriculture also; animals require huge amounts of land, feed, water, and petroleum to feed, slaughter, freeze/refrigerate, and are the driving force behind species extinction and global climate devastation.
The Department of Animal Services, which Mike Adams has written about, that kills millions of coyotes, bears, bobcats, raccoons, skunks, birds, beavers, and other animals, is a tool of the ranchers and animal agriculture industries.
Animal foods disconnect us from our natural compassion and wisdom, and sense of being part of a benevolent universe. They concentrate fear, terror, grief, and despair also - do we really want to eat these, and feed them to our children? They concentrate environmental toxins also, like heavy metals, PCBs, chemicals, and there are over 10,000 pharmaceutical drugs approved for use on animals - who experience mandatory vaccinations on a practically daily basis. They consume the vast amount of GMO crops also!
It is so funny to hear people bashing soy, and eating eggs, dairy products, and animal flesh-- and eating vast amounts of soy indirectly -- many times more soy than any vegan possibly could ever eat!
And organic dairy, meat, and eggs are just as cruel or even more cruel than commercial factory-farmed versions (and that's saying a LOT) because on organic operations antibiotics aren't allowed to be used, so the animals suffering from mastitis and other infections that are rampant suffer more and are mutilated, for example, by having their teats reamed out to get the milk flowing again.
Going vegan is the path to real health for oneself, for the Earth, for animals, for all of us -- we are all interconnected and it's time to question the violence at the core of our culture and stop participating in it and stop making excuses for servile behavior. The only reason anyone eats animal foods is because they're following the orders given them from infancy by a culture of violence and exploitation. It's time for us to think for ourselves, and to came back to our hearts and honor the feelings of kindness for all. Thanks!
Will Tuttle; www.worldpeacediet.org
It is irresponsible to condone eating meat, dairy, and eggs. While I agree that sunshine and the dirt are beneficial, eating foods sourced from animals is not only toxic for us physically, it is even more toxic for us emotionally, spiritually, culturally, and ecologically - and these are all important aspects of our health.
If I buy animal flesh or secretions, I have to pay people to do the terrible work of stabbing, imprisoning, mutilating, and raping animals, work that brings out the worst in them. I am supporting toxic agriculture also; animals require huge amounts of land, feed, water, and petroleum to feed, slaughter, freeze/refrigerate, and are the driving force behind species extinction and global climate devastation.
The Department of Animal Services, which Mike Adams has written about, that kills millions of coyotes, bears, bobcats, raccoons, skunks, birds, beavers, and other animals, is a tool of the ranchers and animal agriculture industries.
Animal foods disconnect us from our natural compassion and wisdom, and sense of being part of a benevolent universe. They concentrate fear, terror, grief, and despair also - do we really want to eat these, and feed them to our children? They concentrate environmental toxins also, like heavy metals, PCBs, chemicals, and there are over 10,000 pharmaceutical drugs approved for use on animals - who experience mandatory vaccinations on a practically daily basis. They consume the vast amount of GMO crops also!
It is so funny to hear people bashing soy, and eating eggs, dairy products, and animal flesh-- and eating vast amounts of soy indirectly -- many times more soy than any vegan possibly could ever eat!
And organic dairy, meat, and eggs are just as cruel or even more cruel than commercial factory-farmed versions (and that's saying a LOT) because on organic operations antibiotics aren't allowed to be used, so the animals suffering from mastitis and other infections that are rampant suffer more and are mutilated, for example, by having their teats reamed out to get the milk flowing again.
Going vegan is the path to real health for oneself, for the Earth, for animals, for all of us -- we are all interconnected and it's time to question the violence at the core of our culture and stop participating in it and stop making excuses for servile behavior. The only reason anyone eats animal foods is because they're following the orders given them from infancy by a culture of violence and exploitation. It's time for us to think for ourselves, and to came back to our hearts and honor the feelings of kindness for all. Thanks!
Will Tuttle; www.worldpeacediet.org
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